Do Intel and AMD processor have the same assembler?

Question

The C language was used to write UNIX to achieve portability -- the same C language program compiled using different compilers produces different machine instructions. How come Windows OS is able to run on both Intel and AMD processors?

Solution 1

AMD and Intel processors(*) have a large set of instructions in common, so it is possible for a compiler or assembler to write binary code which runs "the same" on both.

However, different processor families even from one manufacturer have their own sets of instructions, usually referred to as "extensions" or whatever. Ignoring the x87 co-processor, the first time I remember this being a marketing point was when everything suddenly went "with MMX(TM) technology". Binary code expected to run on any processor either needs to avoid extensions, or to detect the CPU type before using them.

Intel's Itanium 64-bit architecture was completely different from AMD's x86-64 architecture, so for a while their 64bit offerings were non-compatible (and Itanium was nothing like x86, whereas x86-64 extended the instruction set by adding 64bit instructions). Intel blinked first and adopted x86-64, although there are still a few differences: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64#Differences_between_AMD64_and_Intel_64

Windows probably uses the common x86 or x86-64 instruction set for almost all code. I wouldn't be surprised if various drivers and codecs are shipped in multiple versions, and the correct one selected once the CPU has been interrogated.

(*) Actually, Intel make or have made various kinds of processors, including ARM (Intel's ARM processors were called XScale, but I think they've sold that business). And AMD make other processors too. But we know which Intel/AMD processors you mean :-)

Solution 2

As you suspect, the main stream Intel and AMD processors have the same instruction set.

Windows does not run on ARM or PowerPC chips, for example, because it is somewhat dependant on the underlying instruction set.

However, most of Windows is written in C++ (as far as I know), which should be portable to other architectures. Windows NT even ran on PowerPC and other architectures.

Solution 3

AMD are Intel compatible, otherwise they would never have gained a foothold in the market place.

They are effectively clone compatible.

Ryan

Solution 4

Intel's 80x86 CPUs and AMD's 80x86 are "mostly the same sort of", but some things are completely different (e.g. virtual machine extensions - SVM vs. VT-x) and some things (extensions) may or may not be supported. However, some things are different on different CPUs from the same manufacturer too (e.g. some Intel chips support AVX2 and some don't).

There are multiple ways to deal with the differences:

• only use the common subset so the same code runs on all 80x86 CPUs (e.g. treat it like an 8086 chip).

• use a subset of features that is common to a range of CPUs so the same code runs on all 80x86 CPUs in that range. This is very common (e.g. "this software requires an 80x86 CPU (and OS) that supports 64-bit extensions").

• use install-time tests. For example, there might be 4 different copies of software (compiled for 4 different ranges of CPUs) where the installer decides which copy makes sense for the computer the software is being installed on.

• use run-time tests. For example, code can use the CPUID instruction to do if( AVX2_is_supported() ) { set_function_pointers_so_AVX2_is_used(); } else {set_function_pointers_so_AVX2_is_not_used(); }. Note: Some compilers (Intel's ICC) can automatically generate code that does run-time tests.

These aren't mutually exclusive options. For example, the installer might decide to install a 64-bit version (and not a 32-bit version), and then the 64-bit version might check which features are supported at run-time and have different code to use different features.

Also note that different parts of an OS can be treated separately. For example, an OS could have 6 different boot loaders, 4 different "HALs", 4 different kernels, and 3 different "kernel modules" to support virtualisation; where some of these things might do run-time tests and some might not.

Do Intel and AMD processor have the same assembler?

Almost all assemblers for 80x86 support almost all extensions (from all CPU manufacturers - e.g. Intel, AMD, VIA, Cyrix, SiS, ...). In general; it's up to the programmer (or compiler) to make sure they only use things that they know exist. Some assemblers provide features to make this easier (e.g. NASM provides a CPU ... directive so that the programmer can tell the assembler to generate errors if it sees instructions that aren't supported on the specified CPU).

Solution 5

AMD and Intel use the same instruction set.

When you install windows on an AMD processor or an Intel processor, it doesn't "compile" code on the machine.

I remember many people being confused on this subject back during college. They believe that a "setup" means that it is compiling code on your machine. It isn't. Most if not all Windows application outside of the free realms, are given to you by binary.

As for portability, that isn't neccessarily 100% true. While C is highly portable, in many cases writing for a specific OS or system will result in the code only being able to compile/executed on that box. For example, certain Unix machines handle files and directories differently so it might not be 100% portable.

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