USB keyboard works in bios, but stops working when installing XP sp2. PS/2 not an option

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I have just faced the same challenge with Dell Inspiron 530.

All you need to do is to find PS/2 keyboards and PS/2 to USB adapter. This combination worked for me.

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Updated on September 18, 2022

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  • tlynnec
    tlynnec almost 2 years

    All, I have an old (2007) computer (Dell Optiplex 745) on which the hard drive failed completely. I have a new hard drive, formatted to NTFS but otherwise blank.

    • The USB keyboard works fine in bios.
    • I do not have a PS/2 keyboard, nor is there an PS/2 slot on the computer.
    • I have confirmed that legacy support for USB is enabled in the bios.
    • When I attempt to install XP (from an Sp2 CD), the keyboard completely stops working. I can't hit "enter" to install XP, or anything else.
    • I've tried other keyboards: all have the same issue.
    • I am using the usb dual slots next to the ethernet port, but I have tried every slot on the front and back of the computer.
    • I can successfully run Knoppix from DVD without keyboard issues.

    I've seen other people online with the same problem, but no solution.

    1. How can we resolve the keyboard issue so I can install windows?
    2. If one isn't possible, how can I install windows XP to the drive from another machine and then move it to the computer I need it in?

    Assistance gratefully appreciated.

    Edit: I don't have an sp3 disk, I wish I did.

    I would put 7 on it, but it's going to a field employee who REALLLLY doesn't get computers. He can handle XP and the minimal programs that are required, and frankly he retires in a few years so I'm not even going to try to convert him unless I have no choice.

    • Ramhound
      Ramhound about 10 years
      You can use SysPrep if you want built-in tool of a Windows I assume you tried without leagacy support being enabled? I also assume you have tried a SP3 disk also?
    • tlynnec
      tlynnec about 10 years
      I'm not familiar with SysPrep, but it sounds ideal. Would you happen to have a "how to" type link for it? I did try it without legacy support, to no avail. Unfortunately I don't have an Sp3 disk. I do have Win 7, but as noted above, I'm not going there unless I have to because of who this computer is intended for.
    • Ramhound
      Ramhound about 10 years
      SysPrep is well documented on Microsoft's website
  • barlop
    barlop about 10 years
    XP is older than the hardware? What? So keyboards have fundamentally changed? Then if that were so, he should get an old usb keyboard. But I doubt it.
  • tlynnec
    tlynnec about 10 years
    re PS2: that makes sense, and it sounds like something Dell would do X_X I'm not familiar with slipstreaming?
  • Ramhound
    Ramhound about 10 years
    So research the subject. It's well documented
  • barlop
    barlop about 10 years
    how often have you seen this - newer than OS usb controllers not working on the OSs they are older than? Note- he could get a PCI-USB card. Also though I don't see how the reasoning behind what you say makes sense, 'cos XP was the latest windows OS in 2007. Windows 7 was released in 2009
  • Tonny
    Tonny about 10 years
    @barlop: You really don't get it. XP does NOT contain standard drivers for the USB controller that is newer than XP itself. The drivers need to be installed, after the OS is operational, but without them the user can't install the OS. Classic chicken and egg problem. It happens all the time with new hardware and old OS. SATA drivers are another classic example, but NT4 and later has at least a mechanism to supply those during the OS installation. Starting with Vista that same mechanism can also load USB drivers, but you still need a keyboard (or mouse) to operate that mechanism.
  • barlop
    barlop about 10 years
    @Tonny Yes I understand what you're saying What I asked you was "how often have you seen this - newer than OS usb controllers [DURING WINDOWS STARTUP] not working on the OSs they are older than? " I am not asking about SATA(which was a new technology or SATA RAID and NT4. I asked you about USB and Win XP. Sure i've seen Windows load up and then recognize a USB keyboard, loading a driver, but it still recognized the USB keyboard at boot up. Note my question to you.
  • barlop
    barlop about 10 years
    Not to confuse you @Tonny but as a side note as general info on this subject, I'd add that in the early years of USB, like 2002,2003, you had problems of USB devices at startup, and Ps2(and perhaps still is!) was more reliable. And in those days Ps2 was available on the computers. By the time Ps2 got phased out, USB became more reliable for recognition in the BIOS.
  • barlop
    barlop about 10 years
    @Tonny And i'm not denying your experience, but i'm asking you "how often have you seen this - newer than OS usb controllers [DURING WINDOWS XP STARTUP] not working on the OSs they are older than? " (we were talking USB and XP).
  • barlop
    barlop about 10 years
    @Tonny And by the way..You write "XP does NOT contain standard drivers for the USB controller that is newer than XP itself." And you count 2007(which is of course very much in the lifetime of XP and pre Win7) to be newer than XP. What you are talking about must've been a problem experienced by millions. So besides your experience(How many times you ran into it - which you still haven't said). Can you provide sources for this?And,say he slipstreams- What USB Keyboard drivers do you expect him to add? Most USB keyboards don't come with drivers That's the crucial question you should answer.
  • barlop
    barlop about 10 years
    Another thing you can try. Go on ebay and buy a cheap PCI usb adaptor. I don't know if it will work.. maybe you'll have more luck if it comes with a driver.
  • barlop
    barlop about 10 years
    And another thing you can try, is Acronis Trueimage another XP machine. That can apparently make a generic image that can be written to a machine even with a different motherboard. (what is what apparently sysprep was meant to be able to do)
  • barlop
    barlop about 10 years
    Acronis is like norton ghost but a bit more popular. Acronis has a forum good for anything specific to it. What you encountered here was not impatience from those that didn't help you well, what you encountered was the arrogance of ignorance.